Legislature(2003 - 2004)

02/04/2003 03:45 PM Senate STA

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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
            SENATE STATE AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
                        February 4, 2003                                                                                        
                           3:45 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Robin Taylor, Chair                                                                                                     
Senator Fred Dyson                                                                                                              
Senator Gretchen Guess                                                                                                          
Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator John Cowdery                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
Confirmation Hearings:                                                                                                          
     Commissioner, Department of Corrections-Marc Antrim;                                                                       
     Commissioner, Department of Military and Veterans'                                                                         
          Affairs-General Craig E. Campbell                                                                                     
CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS ACTION                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
No previous action to record.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
Marc Antrim                                                                                                                     
Department of Corrections                                                                                                       
431 N. Franklin, Suite 400                                                                                                      
Juneau, AK 99801                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT: Commissioner-Designate                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
General Craig E. Campbell                                                                                                       
Department of Military &                                                                                                        
  Veterans Affairs                                                                                                              
P.O. Box 5800                                                                                                                   
Fort Richardson, AK  99505-0800                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT: Commissioner-Designate                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 03-1, SIDE A                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  ROBIN  TAYLOR called  the  Senate  State Affairs  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order  at 3:45  p.m. Present  were Senators                                                               
Guess, Hoffman, Dyson and Chair Taylor.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The first order of business to  come before the committee was the                                                               
confirmation hearing for  Mr. Marc Antrim as  Commissioner of the                                                               
Department  of  Corrections. Chair  Taylor  asked  Mr. Antrim  to                                                               
swear and affirm that the testimony  he was about to give was the                                                               
truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MARC   ANTRIM,  Commissioner-Designate   of  the   Department  of                                                               
Corrections, so swore and affirmed.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  TAYLOR asked  for a  brief resume  and an  outline of  his                                                               
plans for the department.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNATE  ANTRIM  introduced  himself and  said  he                                                               
would  diverge from  his prepared  statement and  begin with  his                                                               
resume.  He moved  to Juneau  when he  was a  teenager, graduated                                                               
from the  local high  school then  went on  to graduate  from the                                                               
University of  Alaska, Fairbanks  (UAF). While  at UAF  he worked                                                               
with the campus  security police. This experience  exposed him to                                                               
the full  gamut of law  enforcement activities and gave  him good                                                               
experience.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
He began working  for the Department of Corrections  full time in                                                               
1983 and has  been there continuously except for a  short time in                                                               
1985  when he  attended law  school  in California.  He has  been                                                               
involved  with a  number of  employment organizations  associated                                                               
with the department  and has been very active  in the educational                                                               
activities  of  his two  children.  Currently  he serves  on  the                                                               
nonprofit board of the local football league.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
In 2001  he began  serving as site  contact for  President Bush's                                                               
Faith-Based  Initiative   effort.  Juneau's   Catholic  Community                                                               
Services is  funded for a  statewide project called  the Children                                                               
of  Incarcerated Parents.  The concept  is based  on the  precept                                                               
that children  of convicted offenders  are unintended  victims of                                                               
crime, and  the aim of  the project  is to develop  strategies to                                                               
reconnect   these   children   with   their   parents.   At   the                                                               
demonstration  facility at  Lemon Creek,  prisoners were  able to                                                               
videotape  Christmas  holiday messages  and  send  them to  their                                                               
families. This was  well received and the program  has since been                                                               
expanded to include birthdays and  other holidays. In his current                                                               
position  he  looks  forward  to   giving  this  program  ongoing                                                               
support.                                                                                                                        
Given his  history with the  department, he stressed  how honored                                                               
he feels to have been  selected by Governor Murkowski. He started                                                               
as  an officer  and worked  his way  up through  the ranks.  This                                                               
department  has a  unique working  environment with  most of  the                                                               
staff working  together in very  close-knit teams  on twelve-hour                                                               
shifts.  These teams  are asked  to  do things  that most  people                                                               
never  see in  their  normal workday.  They  tussle with  drunks,                                                               
strip-search  people  and  deescalate  combative  prisoners  with                                                               
little  more  than  wit  and  quick  tongues.  One  of  the  more                                                               
difficult tasks  is putting people  back together  after suicidal                                                               
ideations.  Doing this  work professionally  builds character  as                                                               
the  employees work  to get  themselves and  their shift  members                                                               
through the workday  safely. The men and women that  work for the                                                               
department say  they have the toughest  beat in the state  and he                                                               
couldn't agree more.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
The  goals  of  the  prison  system, as  outlined  in  the  state                                                               
constitution, are  to protect the  public, provide  for community                                                               
condemnation of  offenders, protect  the rights of  victims, seek                                                               
restitution  from  offenders and  provide  for  the principle  of                                                               
reformation.  He supports  those points  and his  priority is  to                                                               
protect  the public.  The  department is  working  to remedy  the                                                               
large number  of correction and  probation officer  vacancies and                                                               
making  a particularly  concerted effort  to recruit  more Alaska                                                               
Natives and women into uniform and probation officer ranks.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Prisoners should  be treated firmly  but fairly and  rules should                                                               
be  applied fairly  and uniformly.  The  approach determines  the                                                               
response  is  the  tenor  and  tone he  wants  to  set  with  the                                                               
department's  employees;  if  you treat  someone  fairly,  you're                                                               
likely to get that response in return.                                                                                          
Although there are offenders that  may be beyond redemption, most                                                               
offenders are  released and  need tools  to ensure  their success                                                               
outside the prison system. To that  end, he has begun a review of                                                               
all  programs  to  ensure  they   are  both  effective  and  cost                                                               
efficient.  He looks  forward to  expanding faith-based  programs                                                               
because  they are  some  of the  most  effective programs  prison                                                               
systems offer.  This department will  look at new  and innovative                                                               
approaches and  to new partnerships with  Native corporations for                                                               
treatment programs.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
The department is  working with the Department of  Labor and Work                                                               
Force Development  to put together  more meaningful  job training                                                               
programs. The goal is to work  with trade unions around the state                                                               
and put some  apprenticeship programs in the  facilities to teach                                                               
prisoners  a  skill  so  when  they  are  released  they  have  a                                                               
marketable skill.  This increases  the likelihood  prisoners will                                                               
not reenter the  prison system and makes it possible  for them to                                                               
pay their restitution.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNATE  ANTRIM knows  he will  be called  upon to                                                               
make reductions in his department  and to outline areas that need                                                               
improvement.  He expects  to  be able  to  give that  information                                                               
based upon  his knowledge  of how the  facilities work  and where                                                               
cuts or  changes can be  made with  the least impact  to security                                                               
operations.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
He asked committee members whether they had any questions.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GRETCHEN  GUESS asked  whether all  Commissioner Antrim's                                                               
work has been at Lemon Creek.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNATE ANTRIM said she is correct.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GUESS asked how he plans  to expand his knowledge base of                                                               
other facilities.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNATE ANTRIM  reported he  has had  wide contact                                                               
and  involvement  with  a  number  of  statewide  projects.  Most                                                               
training takes  place in Anchorage  and those trainings  are used                                                               
as an opportunity to network.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GUESS observed  that with the goal to  protect the public                                                               
comes the assumption that behavior  can be changed. She asked him                                                               
to expand  on his  plans to  evaluate the  success or  failure of                                                               
programs.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNATE ANTRIM explained they  have an auditor who                                                               
will  perform  basic  program audits  to  determine  whether  the                                                               
particular  model is  successful  and  cost effective.  Anecdotal                                                               
substance   abuse  program   evidence   suggests  that   although                                                               
prisoners  go  through  the  phases of  treatment  while  in  the                                                               
system, they become repeat offenders  and are quickly back in the                                                               
system. If this  is actually the case, then  program changes need                                                               
to  be  instituted. Wellness  Courts,  Wellness  Jails and  other                                                               
experimental programs will be thoroughly examined.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GUESS asked  whether the  audits would  be financial  or                                                               
program audits.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNATE ANTRIM  replied both  types would  be done                                                               
because they  are tied together,  but his emphasis is  on program                                                               
audits because the initial concern  is whether the program works.                                                               
However,  he  certainly  wants  to know  whether  they  are  cost                                                               
effective as well.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LYMAN  HOFFMAN referred to  the plan to hire  more Alaska                                                               
Natives and asked if he had a target.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNATE  ANTRIM   explained  that   while  roughly                                                               
thirty-four percent  of the prison  population is  Alaska Native,                                                               
their  representation in  the corrections  workforce has  dropped                                                               
from six to four percent in the  last eight to ten years. This is                                                               
particularly  unacceptable since  prisoners  model prison  staff.                                                               
Recognizing  this  fact,  it  makes sense  to  hire  more  Alaska                                                               
Natives as  correction officers. These  officers are some  of the                                                               
most stable  elements in offenders'  lives so more  Alaska Native                                                               
correction officers should  be models for the value  of holding a                                                               
job  and going  to work  on a  daily basis.  Karen Neagel  is the                                                               
Cultural  Affairs  Coordinator  and  is  tasked  with  developing                                                               
strategies  to  address  the specific  problems  associated  with                                                               
current hiring practices.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HOFFMAN asked  how he could measure  progress to increase                                                               
Alaska Native hire within the correction system.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNATE  ANTRIM said  he was  hesitant  to give  a                                                               
number because he  doesn't know what is realistic,  but there are                                                               
specific systemic issues  with the way they  are interviewing and                                                               
administering  tests.  Having ten  percent  of  the workforce  as                                                               
Alaska Native in the  next year or two would be  his goal, but he                                                               
isn't sure whether or not that is attainable.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HOFFMAN  then  asked whether  the  percentage  would  be                                                               
increased in subsequent years.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNATE ANTRIM said that was one of his goals.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   HOFFMAN  asked   whether   he  has   a  timeframe   for                                                               
accomplishing  the management  merger of  the Anchorage  Jail and                                                               
the Cook Inlet Pretrial Facility.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNATE ANTRIM explained  the reorganization calls                                                               
for developing several  new job classes. They  will begin working                                                               
through the  Department of Administration, Division  of Personnel                                                               
next month. There  are a number of employees whose  lives will be                                                               
affected so they need to  know; and from a management perspective                                                               
the  department  wants to  start  realizing  savings as  soon  as                                                               
possible.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HOFFMAN asked  for  an  outline of  his  plans to  bring                                                               
prisoners home so they have better access to their families.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNATE ANTRIM  said he  is aware  of a  number of                                                               
construction  proposals and  getting  adequate bed  space in  the                                                               
state is  a priority.  Bed  space is driving everything  they are                                                               
doing or unable  to do. Years ago the system  was fairly cohesive                                                               
and  had various  facilities identified  with specific  missions.                                                               
The  population in  the  state was  fairly  stable and  long-term                                                               
treatment was  provided to prisoners  in facilities that  were as                                                               
close as possible  to their homes. Due  to bed-space constraints,                                                               
this is no longer the case.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HOFFMAN then  asked for  his position  on public  versus                                                               
private beds in Alaska.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNATE  ANTRIM   replied  he   supports  Governor                                                               
Murkowski's  position in  favor  or public  prisons. However,  he                                                               
will listen  to all proposals  and looks forward to  working with                                                               
the legislature through the process.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRED DYSON  asked for his views on  upgrading the quality                                                               
of personnel  by upgrading the  threshold of education  and other                                                               
requirements because he has seen that be counterproductive.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNATE  ANTRIM  said  the  certification  process                                                               
under  the  Alaska Police  Standards  Council  that requires  all                                                               
prospective staff to  undergo a mental health  screening has been                                                               
problematic. It's not a simple  issue to resolve because although                                                               
they  don't  want to  hire  people  who  are deemed  unsafe,  the                                                               
standards are a  major stumbling block that  is preventing Alaska                                                               
Natives and women from getting  through the process. Beginning on                                                               
February  6,  discussions begin  to  evaluate  the standards  and                                                               
decide on modifications.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DYSON asked if the  problems were mental health issues or                                                               
old  convictions   that  prevented  hire.  Individuals   who  did                                                               
something dumb at  one time and got busted for  their actions may                                                               
have learned from their mistakes and might be exemplary staff.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNATE  ANTRIM said  past felonies  certainly are                                                               
an  issue, but  there  is  a time  limit  for misdemeanants.  The                                                               
largest stumbling  block is that  drug use was widespread  in the                                                               
1970s and  1980s and it's  in many people's  background. However,                                                               
the mental health exam is also causing difficulties.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DYSON  assured him the  legislature wants him to  be able                                                               
to get qualified people and they stand ready to help.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNATE ANTRIM  thanked him then added  he thought                                                               
his  department could  make internal  adjustments to  address the                                                               
concerns.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GUESS asked how he  would evaluate mental health services                                                               
to inmates. Reading she has  done indicates the prison population                                                               
has  an extraordinary  percentage  of people  who are  struggling                                                               
with mental illness.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNATE  ANTRIM  informed members  his  department                                                               
considers itself to be the  primary mental health provider in the                                                               
state.  At  any  given  time  they have  three  to  four  hundred                                                               
chronically  mentally  ill   prisoners.  The  department's  large                                                               
mental health  staff does  an excellent  job of  stabilizing this                                                               
population  then  directing  them  into  a  number  of  nonprofit                                                               
providers around the state upon their release.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GUESS then  asked if there are any plans  to move the sex                                                               
offender program away from the women's prison in Anchorage.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:20 pm                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNATE   ANTRIM  admitted   it  was   an  unusual                                                               
combination and  explained Highland Mountain  Correctional Center                                                               
has  been a  sex  offender  treatment facility  for  most of  its                                                               
existence. In  the early 1990s,  the number of  convicted females                                                               
in  the state  got so  large  corrections needed  to designate  a                                                               
facility  for that  population.  Highland  Mountain was  selected                                                               
because of its  size and because it provided  access for children                                                               
of  the offenders  and access  to obstetrician  and gynecological                                                               
care. At that  point, males were moved from  Highland Mountain to                                                               
the  old female  facility. The  shift  has worked  well for  both                                                               
populations  but he  does  share her  concern  about the  locale.                                                               
There have  been few  incidents because  there is  little contact                                                               
between the two  populations and he intends to keep  it that way.                                                               
There are no current plans to move either population.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HOFFMAN  asked whether prisoners with  mental illness are                                                               
better off in prison or in an institution.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNATE  ANTRIM thought  that was  a question  the                                                               
legislature should  answer. There  are mental health  courts that                                                               
are trying  to divert  people out  of the  prison system,  but at                                                               
this  time in  Alaska's history,  the role  of the  Department of                                                               
Corrections is a provider of last  resort for a number of things,                                                               
mental health services being just one.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mental health is a large  issue for the Department of Corrections                                                               
while the  role of Alaska  Psychiatric Institute (API),  which is                                                               
operated by Health and Social  Services, has grown smaller in the                                                               
field.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HOFFMAN  asked  whether the  department  has  considered                                                               
trying to get assistance from the Mental Health Trust.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNATE  ANTRIM  replied the  department  receives                                                               
roughly  $450 thousand  in budgetary  support  directly from  the                                                               
Mental Health  Trust. They support  a number of  smaller programs                                                               
as  well.  The  department's  general fund  line  is  about  $4.5                                                               
million dollars of dedicated mental health money.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  TAYLOR asked  how he  sees  corrections interplaying  with                                                               
victim's   rights  organizations   and  whether   the  lines   of                                                               
communication are open and working.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNATE  ANTRIM said  the department  has a  staff                                                               
member with  the division of  probation and parole who  does lots                                                               
of victim interaction and provides  services as needed. The staff                                                               
member  also operates  the  Victim  Information and  Notification                                                               
Everyday  (VINE)  system,  an   automated  system  that  provides                                                               
information to victims and other  members of the public regarding                                                               
the whereabouts and status of a prisoner.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  TAYLOR  then  asked  him  to  address  the  White  Buffalo                                                               
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNATE ANTRIM  confessed he has seen  the program                                                               
as a line  item in the budget  but he isn't familiar  with it and                                                               
there  is no  money  directed  to it  at  this  time. He  assured                                                               
members  the department  is looking  at any  kind of  innovation.                                                               
He's  convinced   current  programs  and  approaches   have  been                                                               
successful for  some prisoners,  but there is  need to  make some                                                               
programs  more  culturally  relevant  for some  segments  of  the                                                               
population. Different  approaches such as the  Wellness Courts or                                                               
the Wellness Jail that are being discussed.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  TAYLOR  explained White  Buffalo  is  a spiritual  program                                                               
based on culture that Senator  Ward wanted Native corporations to                                                               
use. He encouraged  the Commissioner to continue  to explore such                                                               
programs to evaluate their merit.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
BRUCE TANGEMAN,  Fiscal Analyst  with Legislative  Finance, spoke                                                               
from the back of the committee  room to explain the White Buffalo                                                               
project was appropriated $50 thousand  in general funds last year                                                               
and was subsequently moved to the parole board.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  TAYLOR said  he and  Senator Dyson  have both  spent years                                                               
working to make systemic changes  within welfare programs and now                                                               
they  are  trying  to  find  ways  in  which  various  government                                                               
agencies  can increase  partnering to  more effectively  help the                                                               
entire   family  unit.   He  stressed   a  willingness   to  lend                                                               
legislative support to coordinate those efforts.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNATE ANTRIM  thanked him  and assured  him that                                                               
was at  the heart  of Governor Murkowski's  direction to  him and                                                               
Commissioner  O'Cleary.  Part  of the  Children  of  Incarcerated                                                               
Parents  project  grant  that was  given  to  Catholic  Community                                                               
Services involves tying those services  together. He agreed there                                                               
are lots of duplicative efforts in state government.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GUESS   agreed  with   Senator  Taylor   that  increased                                                               
coordination between  departments is needed. She  cited instances                                                               
in which  a disconnect between  the court system  and corrections                                                               
resulted  in  batterers  and domestic  violence  offenders  being                                                               
housed in the same neighborhood as the victim.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNATE  ANTRIM   agreed  this  area   needs  work                                                               
because such instances would be very disturbing to the victim.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  TAYLOR assured  members that,  from his  experience, there                                                               
has always been a disconnect  between the courts and corrections.                                                               
The court  may, in  fact, impose  a sentence and  it may  not fit                                                               
with  corrections   plan  for  that  individual.   He  urged  the                                                               
commissioner to  do all  he could  to foster  cooperation between                                                               
agencies and branches of government.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Although he said he strongly  supports Senator Hoffman's concerns                                                               
about the number  of individuals in different  racial groups that                                                               
may be  working for the  state, he doesn't want  the Commissioner                                                               
to be left  with the impression that he, as  chairman, is looking                                                               
for  quotas.  He applauds  the  commissioner's  hiring goals  but                                                               
would rather not hear it stated in terms of quotas.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNATE ANTRIM said he  did not understand Senator                                                               
Hoffman to  say he wanted the  department to impose a  quota. The                                                               
goal to hire more Alaska  Natives in the department is admirable,                                                               
particularly  when they  are working  with a  sizeable population                                                               
from that group.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  TAYLOR  related  he frequently  sentenced  individuals  to                                                               
Anabuse when they were before  him [as judge] after having nearly                                                               
died because of their use of alcohol and drugs.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR TAYLOR said he would entertain a motion.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DYSON  made  a  motion   to  forward  Commissioner  Marc                                                               
Antrim's name from committee with individual recommendations.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no stated objection it was so ordered.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR TAYLOR  asked General  Craig Campbell  to step  forward and                                                               
swear and affirm that the testimony  he was about to give was the                                                               
truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNATE CRAIG CAMPBELL did so swear and affirm.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR TAYLOR  gave him the floor  and asked him to  proceed as he                                                               
saw fit.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNATE CRAIG  E. CAMPBELL identified  himself and                                                               
said  he  lives  in  Eagle  River,  Alaska.  He  began  with  his                                                               
biography  because   knowing  who   he  is  would   help  members                                                               
understand the type of background he brings to the position.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
He has  almost 28 years  in the  military. The United  States Air                                                               
Force  brought  him  to  Alaska  in 1981  and  stationed  him  at                                                               
Elmendorf Air  Force Base. Three  years later he  was transferred                                                               
to Illinois. Although he negotiated to  stay in Alaska, it was to                                                               
no  avail. At  that  point  he separated  from  active duty  with                                                               
almost ten years of service.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
He is  an air traffic  controller by background and  he separated                                                               
with the  intention of  going into the  National Guard.  He began                                                               
looking at  the Alaska National  Guard and found they  don't have                                                               
air  traffic  controllers.  He   found  an  air  traffic  control                                                               
position  in the  California National  Guard and  worked in  that                                                               
position  for seven  years.  He remained  in  Eagle River  during                                                               
those  seven years  and commuted  on weekends,  once a  month and                                                               
several  weeks  a  year.  He   did  that  to  keep  his  military                                                               
experience alive knowing  that sometime he would be  able to join                                                               
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the  Alaska  Air National  Guard.  Finally,  when the  168Air-                                                                  
Refueling  Wing began  at Eielson,  he was  able to  find a  home                                                               
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there.  In 1991  he became  the 168resource    manager,  squadron                                                               
commander  and served  in  that position  for  seven years.  From                                                               
there he  worked in headquarters  as the  chief of plans  for the                                                               
Alaska Air National  Guard and was the  executive support officer                                                               
for  General  Kanellis.  Having  completed  Air  War  College,  a                                                               
prerequisite  for promotion  to colonel,  he volunteered  and was                                                               
selected  as one  of two  Air National  Guard representatives  to                                                               
spend  a year  attending the  Naval  War College  and obtained  a                                                               
graduate degree.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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He returned to  Alaska to serve the  168wingas    vice-commander.                                                               
He  explained  he  was vice-commander  because  he  doesn't  wear                                                               
wings. It  is significant in  an Air Force organization  that the                                                               
commander wears wings.  He feels fortunate, not being  a pilot or                                                               
a navigator, to have been allowed to be a vice-commander.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNATE CAMPBELL explained  there were about eight                                                               
applicants and he was one of  the last to put in his application.                                                               
In the  National Guard  it is important  to have  leadership that                                                               
comes from  within the  organization. Of  the last  four adjutant                                                               
generals, two came  from the active duty force, one  from the Air                                                               
Force and  one from the Army.  Both did outstanding jobs,  but it                                                               
was difficult  for them to  transition from an Air  Force culture                                                               
into a National Guard culture,  to learn the political process of                                                               
the State of  Alaska, and to be successful  for the organization.                                                               
After watching the  other two, who were from  the National Guard,                                                               
he determined the  next adjutant general needed to  come from the                                                               
Alaska National Guard.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
He also  thought the next  adjutant general should come  from the                                                               
Air National Guard.  Primarily, this is because  the Air National                                                               
Guard has grown rapidly and is  now larger than the Army National                                                               
Guard. There  has not  been an adjutant  general from  the Alaska                                                               
Air  National Guard  since  1980.  This sends  a  message to  the                                                               
senior leadership  within the  Air National  Guard that  they can                                                               
succeed and be recognized as leaders in the state.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNATE  CAMPBELL said  he is  a planner  by trade                                                               
and  he wasn't  able to  identify  the direction  the Alaska  Air                                                               
National Guard  was heading. He  began looking for  the strategic                                                               
plan to  determine their  objectives and  found the  plan started                                                               
about  eight years  ago never  came to  fruition so  there is  no                                                               
written  strategic  plan  for  the  Department  of  Military  and                                                               
Veterans' Affairs.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Additionally, the  most current annual report  for the department                                                               
is  from   1997.  His  research   indicates  that   although  the                                                               
department has been  doing many important things,  it hasn't been                                                               
in an organized direction and  there has been no organized report                                                               
to  the  Legislature  with  demonstrative  conclusions  that  the                                                               
department was meeting its goals.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
His  findings caused  him to  became  passionately interested  in                                                               
becoming the new adjutant general  to provide the "blue suit" Air                                                               
National Guard leadership with planning and direction.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
He  has  begun  working  with  the  Murkowski  Administration  to                                                               
reorganize the  horizontal or flat  structure of  the department.                                                               
All  division managers  were reporting  directly to  the adjutant                                                               
general who  was also  trying to  develop policy  direction. This                                                               
plate  was  too full  so  they  reorganized  to give  the  deputy                                                               
commissioner more authority under administrative functions.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
He organized  a two-column system  with the Army  National Guard,                                                               
the Air National  Guard, state defense services  and the national                                                               
militia  under  the  military  column   of  forces  and  homeland                                                               
security  and emergency  services under  the civilian  column. In                                                               
the civilian  column, Sam Johnson, as  assistant commissioner, is                                                               
charged  with merging  homeland security  and emergency  services                                                               
into one  team. He sets the  policy; and his team  brings him the                                                               
action  plan so  they  will be  able  to respond  as  a team  for                                                               
civilian   services.  On   the  military   side,  General   Craig                                                               
Christensen  is  deputy  military   director  and  the  lead  for                                                               
direction  of   military  activities.   A  team  of   about  five                                                               
individuals formed  from the two  columns serves as  an executive                                                               
board to  develop and  implement a strategic  plan and  report to                                                               
the Legislature on their accomplishments.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The priority missions are:                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
    · Homeland Security: It's ill defined today in terms of what                                                                
      it will look  like, how it will be managed,  where will the                                                               
      funding come from  and how to respond to  the citizens. The                                                               
      department  has  two  basic pillars  of  government  it  is                                                               
      responsible for.  They are the  safety and security  of the                                                               
      citizenry. If  that can't be provided,  government can't be                                                               
      provided.  The department  will work  closely with  federal                                                               
      agencies to develop a cohesive program.                                                                                   
    · Recruiting and Retention: There has been a decline in the                                                                 
      number  of individuals  in the  National Guard  even though                                                               
      the  Air  National Guard  has  grown.  This trend  must  be                                                               
      changed   for  the   Army  National   Guard.  Specifically,                                                               
      declines have occurred in rural  Alaska and there will be a                                                               
      concerted effort  to improve  the recruiting  and retention                                                               
      of Native  Alaskans. Having just  four weeks on the  job he                                                               
      doesn't yet have  a solution, but he has  done the research                                                               
      and he understands the problem.  He is working with General                                                               
      Christensen  on the  Army side  to find  different ways  of                                                               
      accomplishing  the   mission.  As  he  goes   forward  with                                                               
      strategic plans  and performance  measures he will  ask the                                                               
      Legislature to  help him  by building  performance measures                                                               
      that  create  a  positive   direction  for  recruiting  and                                                               
      retention is Western Alaska.                                                                                              
    · National Missile Defense: The Army, the Air Force and the                                                                 
      U.S.  Space Command  are advancing  the  program. They  are                                                               
      charged  with  having  it operational  in  2004  with  full                                                               
      buildup in  2005. The Army  National Guard is the  lead for                                                               
      providing the  people and the  training for  that facility.                                                               
      There will be about 300  Army National Guard people at Fort                                                               
      Greeley in about  two years. The majority  will be security                                                               
      police  and the  rest will  be  operators. The  operational                                                               
      control will stay  with the active duty but  the guard will                                                               
      do the hiring the training  and the staffing of the people.                                                               
      That  brings  a  number  of  challenges  including  housing                                                               
      people in Delta and whether  the skilled recruits will come                                                               
      from Alaska. He  would like to attract as  many Alaskans as                                                               
      possible to fill those billets.                                                                                           
    · National Guard Transformation: He would like to change the                                                                
      way  the  Alaska branches  do  business.  They should  work                                                               
      together in one aerospace  defense organization that allows                                                               
      each branch  to compete  equally for  assignments. Although                                                               
      this is  a difficult challenge  in the  military structure,                                                               
      he  believes  it's  natural  for  Alaska  and  he  will  be                                                               
      pursuing that approach.                                                                                                   
    · Veteran Issues: Because Alaskan veterans deserve some type                                                                
      of return when they retire,  the veterans' home issue needs                                                               
      to come to fruition. The  study regarding what is right for                                                               
      Alaska  must be  completed, the  facts  assembled, and  the                                                               
      veterans  enfranchised  to  support  the  program  that  is                                                               
      ultimately selected.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNATE CAMPBELL  assured members  he is  a fiscal                                                               
conservative. He accepted  the job knowing he would  have to work                                                               
with the  Legislature to provide  for the safety and  security of                                                               
Alaska without an  increased budget. It will be  a challenge, but                                                               
he  has already  informed his  department they  will not  ask for                                                               
personnel costs  for 2003.  When he builds  a budget,  he expects                                                               
his  divisions  to  live  within  that  budget.  Part  of  fiscal                                                               
discipline is  requiring people to  be accountable for  what they                                                               
ask for.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
That being said, he will be  asking for a supplemental amount for                                                               
disaster  relief.  The  earthquake  and Kenai  floods  have  been                                                               
significant  incidents and  will  require additional  help as  is                                                               
traditional with disasters.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
He  said  he  is  motivated   to  run  the  department,  has  the                                                               
qualifications  to  lead  the  department   and  has  the  fiscal                                                               
understanding to know what must be done to ensure success.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He asked members for questions.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GUESS expressed her appreciation  to General Campbell for                                                               
taking the position. She asked  him to discuss the Military Youth                                                               
Academy and how it fits into his strategic plan.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNATE  CAMPBELL  emphasized  the  value  of  the                                                               
Youth  Academy  within  the Department  of  Military  &  Veterans                                                               
Affairs (DMVA). Although it has  receives funding from its tie to                                                               
the education formula, the success  of the program comes from its                                                               
military structure. As one of  the few accredited youth academies                                                               
in the  country, it  provides troubled  youth the  opportunity to                                                               
enter a structured environment and  achieve the goal of a general                                                               
education  diploma  (GED)  or high  school  diploma.  He  advised                                                               
members that facility  money is needed at some  point because the                                                               
Camp Carroll facility is old and overcrowded.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  TAYLOR thanked  General Campbell  for taking  the time  to                                                               
provide  the people  of the  State of  Alaska with  his exemplary                                                               
service and assured him his dedication is much appreciated.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
There was no additional testimony.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR TAYLOR asked for a motion.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DYSON  made a motion  to forward General  Campbell's name                                                               
to a joint session for consideration.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
There being no stated objection it was so ordered.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR TAYLOR adjourned the meeting at 5:00 p.m.                                                                                 

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